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all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:56 am
by Hamdog
ok so yet another problem i seem to have got is all of a sudden my power windows wont work at all, theres not even an electric click when i push any of the buttons on the drivers door control part
they worked fine yesterday and all fuses seem to be fine and not blown,and the onl,y thing i have done is adjust the idle screw since then and i doubt it would be that causing it
the rear passenger window regulator was buggered to start with and that one wouldnt work but now none are working. and to top it all off my air con is useless so its constantly a hot summers day inside my wagon :(

any ideas?

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:15 am
by geeves
do you own a multimeter?

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:38 am
by Hamdog
i did until i took the wizard for swimming lessons the other weekend and it got soaking wet and stopped working, am going to buy another one this weekend tho ,but wouldnt have a clue as to where to start testing with it

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:10 am
by geeves
I would start looking for the battery connection at the switch block in the drivers door. Follow the clues from there.
I spent years following an intermitant fault on the windows in the old bighorn. The sort that disappears every time the meter goes near it. Never did actually find the fault but did prove it was the connection to the coil in the relay that only lets the windows work when the ignition was on. That turned into biff the relay and bridge the on contacts Result windows that worked Always.

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:56 pm
by Hamdog
Just got a multimeter so am about to start looking , the power window circuit breaker hasn't tripped at all so I guess I'll start there first an see if that has power going to it since that would be the midway point and work either way from there

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:42 pm
by Hamdog
right so i tested at the circuit breaker in the fuse box in the side of the dash, theres power going there, so i tested at the plug going into the powqer window control panel on the drivers door, theres power going there, when i unplug the connector to the control panel and plug it back in i can hear two clicks in the switch panel so theres def power going into it

sooooo does that mean its just a faulty unit? do they just all of a sudden stop working like that? might try and find another drivers door control panel and see if that works and if not then im stumped

could it be a faulty relay somewhere? or would that not put power all the way to the switches?

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:57 am
by geeves
silly question. There is a lock switch on the switch module. Has that been bumped?
There is a manual at http://www.mediafire.com/?2g2hc1kzeyend that should have a reasonable wiring diagram.

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:34 am
by Hamdog
Well funny you say that I did press the lock button the day before it stopped working , maybe that button is (family and work friendly edit by resident censor/admin)out and staying on lock ?

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:36 pm
by Hamdog
ok so i had an auto sparky have a quick look at it and he couldnt work it out either, he said it sounds like the lock button was stuck on lock as there was power going to it all, so i went to the wreckers and tried another unit and same thing. so unless on the off chance that one was stuffed too what else could it be?

i cant see all the window regulators all stuffing out at the exact same time

Re: all power windows not working (96 wizard)

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:55 pm
by Hamdog
ok all sorted now , after a bit of internet searching i narrowed it down the the power window relay , got a new one from supercheap and went about trying to find out what relay is the window one, i now have working windows again !